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Post by ajc31980 on Jul 2, 2019 22:13:48 GMT
Hi everyone! Just wanted to post an update on the 47 GE. It’s now been roughly a year ( give or take a few days lol) since I got this one up and running and it’s still going ! I took a few pics of the frost line before defrosted it, a few days ago. It’s little low but still keeping temp and the runtimes are still good .
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Post by ckfan on Jul 3, 2019 0:28:15 GMT
That’s great. I’m glad it’s still behaving for you. The frost line still looks acceptable since it is right next to the header. It does look a little low, but I’m sure it will be fine. It must have a very slow leak somewhere.
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Post by turbokinetic on Jul 3, 2019 11:23:36 GMT
Hi AJ, that's great to see it's still working well! Thanks for the update!
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Post by ajc31980 on Jan 2, 2021 20:45:06 GMT
Hi everyone! It’s been a wile since I’ve posted anything. Hope all the members of the group had a happy new year! Sadly this isn’t a happy update on the 47 GE. Per my last post I had said about the frost line getting lower. It eventually got to point of where it was when I first brought this fridge home. I decided to just pull the plug and move it back into the laundry room and let it sit until I found the leak and finally acquired the proper tools to repair it. Or maybe even luck out and find some one who would be willing to work on it.
Today I decided to try firing it up just to see what it would do. All I get is the dreaded “humm Click!” I tried swapping the relay with another and checked for continuity between run and common and start and common and Continuity is good. I’m thinking maybe the The compressor may be seized or locked up for some reason or another. Ugh. I hooked my gauges up and it still has a decent amount of pressure in the system around 50 psi. I also attempted to add a little bit of refrigerant just on the odd chance maybe it was too low and that was causing it not to start and it made no difference. Sadly I think I may just throw in the towel on this project. Unless there happens to be any one in my neck of the woods that wants to help fix it. But I don’t recall anyone living close to me. Secondly, if anyone in the forum would be interested in buying it for parts shoot me a message. It has the original owners manual and original ice trays. I’m in the Johnstown Pennsylvania area.
Thanks AJ
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Post by elec573 on Jan 2, 2021 20:58:25 GMT
Sad to here that AJ , that doesn’t make sense it won’t run . It was running when you parked it . what are you using for a fridge then ?
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Post by ajc31980 on Jan 2, 2021 21:13:59 GMT
Sad to here that AJ , that doesn’t make sense it won’t run . It was running when you parked it . what are you using for a fridge then ? I’ve been using a newer fridge I had before getting the GE. It’s a Frigidaire a.k.a. Electrolux that I bought brand new in 2012. It’s just not the same . I almost sold That newer Frigidaire to someone. I’m glad I decided to keep it.
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Post by turbokinetic on Jan 2, 2021 22:25:23 GMT
Hi everyone! It’s been a wile since I’ve posted anything. Hope all the members of the group had a happy new year! Sadly this isn’t a happy update on the 47 GE. Per my last post I had said about the frost line getting lower. It eventually got to point of where it was when I first brought this fridge home. I decided to just pull the plug and move it back into the laundry room and let it sit until I found the leak and finally acquired the proper tools to repair it. Or maybe even luck out and find some one who would be willing to work on it. Today I decided to try firing it up just to see what it would do. All I get is the dreaded “humm Click!” I tried swapping the relay with another and checked for continuity between run and common and start and common and Continuity is good. I’m thinking maybe the The compressor may be seized or locked up for some reason or another. Ugh. I hooked my gauges up and it still has a decent amount of pressure in the system around 50 psi. I also attempted to add a little bit of refrigerant just on the odd chance maybe it was too low and that was causing it not to start and it made no difference. Sadly I think I may just throw in the towel on this project. Unless there happens to be any one in my neck of the woods that wants to help fix it. But I don’t recall anyone living close to me. Secondly, if anyone in the forum would be interested in buying it for parts shoot me a message. It has the original owners manual and original ice trays. I’m in the Johnstown Pennsylvania area. Thanks AJ Sorry to hear this. Really disappointing. It does sound to me more like a blockage than a lost charge. That will cause reducing frost line and failure to re-start. It's been so long since you worked on it initially, I can't remember did you change the drier? If it starts up after sitting for a day or two, you probably are looking at a restriction in the capillary tube.
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Post by ajc31980 on Jan 2, 2021 23:02:24 GMT
Hi everyone! It’s been a wile since I’ve posted anything. Hope all the members of the group had a happy new year! Sadly this isn’t a happy update on the 47 GE. Per my last post I had said about the frost line getting lower. It eventually got to point of where it was when I first brought this fridge home. I decided to just pull the plug and move it back into the laundry room and let it sit until I found the leak and finally acquired the proper tools to repair it. Or maybe even luck out and find some one who would be willing to work on it. Today I decided to try firing it up just to see what it would do. All I get is the dreaded “humm Click!” I tried swapping the relay with another and checked for continuity between run and common and start and common and Continuity is good. I’m thinking maybe the The compressor may be seized or locked up for some reason or another. Ugh. I hooked my gauges up and it still has a decent amount of pressure in the system around 50 psi. I also attempted to add a little bit of refrigerant just on the odd chance maybe it was too low and that was causing it not to start and it made no difference. Sadly I think I may just throw in the towel on this project. Unless there happens to be any one in my neck of the woods that wants to help fix it. But I don’t recall anyone living close to me. Secondly, if anyone in the forum would be interested in buying it for parts shoot me a message. It has the original owners manual and original ice trays. I’m in the Johnstown Pennsylvania area. Thanks AJ Sorry to hear this. Really disappointing. It does sound to me more like a blockage than a lost charge. That will cause reducing frost line and failure to re-start. It's been so long since you worked on it initially, I can't remember did you change the drier? If it starts up after sitting for a day or two, you probably are looking at a restriction in the capillary tube. Hi everyone! It’s been a wile since I’ve posted anything. Hope all the members of the group had a happy new year! Sadly this isn’t a happy update on the 47 GE. Per my last post I had said about the frost line getting lower. It eventually got to point of where it was when I first brought this fridge home. I decided to just pull the plug and move it back into the laundry room and let it sit until I found the leak and finally acquired the proper tools to repair it. Or maybe even luck out and find some one who would be willing to work on it. Today I decided to try firing it up just to see what it would do. All I get is the dreaded “humm Click!” I tried swapping the relay with another and checked for continuity between run and common and start and common and Continuity is good. I’m thinking maybe the The compressor may be seized or locked up for some reason or another. Ugh. I hooked my gauges up and it still has a decent amount of pressure in the system around 50 psi. I also attempted to add a little bit of refrigerant just on the odd chance maybe it was too low and that was causing it not to start and it made no difference. Sadly I think I may just throw in the towel on this project. Unless there happens to be any one in my neck of the woods that wants to help fix it. But I don’t recall anyone living close to me. Secondly, if anyone in the forum would be interested in buying it for parts shoot me a message. It has the original owners manual and original ice trays. I’m in the Johnstown Pennsylvania area. Thanks AJ Sorry to hear this. Really disappointing. It does sound to me more like a blockage than a lost charge. That will cause reducing frost line and failure to re-start. It's been so long since you worked on it initially, I can't remember did you change the drier? If it starts up after sitting for a day or two, you probably are looking at a restriction in the capillary tube. Hey Dave Just a quick recap of what I actually did do. Added refrigerant which brought the frost line back up to a good level. Replaced the thermostat. Replaced the relay. This one didn’t have a filter dryer and I never added one because I didn’t have the proper tools to do so. Shortly after the post I made back in July of 2019. The frost line had dropped even more so decided so just go back using my newer fridge. About 2 months ago, I did plug it in to make sure it still ran. I let it run for about an hour and the frost level was really low. And the Compressor sounded a little louder than it normally did. So I shut it off unplugged it and it sat for about two months. Yesterday I plugged it in I got the hum and click. Today I tried it again still got the same results. I had thought maybe the newer relay I put in it went bad. So I tried connecting the original one back up I got the exact same results. I was tempted to try pulling a vacuum on it to see if maybe I could knock a clog loose but R12 is damn expensive and hard to come by these days and I don’t wanna waste it . I do have entire case Office Depot “air duster” here tho. Lol. I keep that stuff on hand for working on electronics it’s always good for blowing and dust out of old radios etc. That could be a Plan B if I decide I’m feeling experimental. Haha.
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Post by turbokinetic on Jan 2, 2021 23:09:12 GMT
Sorry to hear this. Really disappointing. It does sound to me more like a blockage than a lost charge. That will cause reducing frost line and failure to re-start. It's been so long since you worked on it initially, I can't remember did you change the drier? If it starts up after sitting for a day or two, you probably are looking at a restriction in the capillary tube. Sorry to hear this. Really disappointing. It does sound to me more like a blockage than a lost charge. That will cause reducing frost line and failure to re-start. It's been so long since you worked on it initially, I can't remember did you change the drier? If it starts up after sitting for a day or two, you probably are looking at a restriction in the capillary tube. Hey Dave Just a quick recap of what I actually did do. Added refrigerant which brought the frost line back up to a good level. Replaced the thermostat. Replaced the relay. This one didn’t have a filter dryer and I never added one because I didn’t have the proper tools to do so. Shortly after the post I made back in July of 2019. The frost line had dropped even more so decided so just go back using my newer fridge. About 2 months ago, I did plug it in to make sure it still ran. I let it run for about an hour and the frost level was really low. And the Compressor sounded a little louder than it normally did. So I shut it off unplugged it and it sat for about two months. Yesterday I plugged it in I got the hum and click. Today I tried it again still got the same results. I had thought maybe the newer relay I put in it went bad. So I tried connecting the original one back up I got the exact same results. I was tempted to try pulling a vacuum on it to see if maybe I could knock a clog loose but R12 is damn expensive and hard to come by these days and I don’t wanna waste it . I do have entire case Office Depot “air duster” here tho. Lol. I keep that stuff on hand for working on electronics it’s always good for blowing and dust out of old radios etc. That could be a Plan B if I decide I’m feeling experimental. Haha. I see. The loud compressor could have been due to excess pressure caused by a restriction; or possibly from seizing due to oil getting trapped in the evaporator and not returning. The air duster is R152A and is very much proven to work in this model of fridge and compressor. But it won't help if the problem is a seized compressor. Definitely needs investigation for sure.
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Post by ajc31980 on Jan 2, 2021 23:13:38 GMT
Hey Dave Just a quick recap of what I actually did do. Added refrigerant which brought the frost line back up to a good level. Replaced the thermostat. Replaced the relay. This one didn’t have a filter dryer and I never added one because I didn’t have the proper tools to do so. Shortly after the post I made back in July of 2019. The frost line had dropped even more so decided so just go back using my newer fridge. About 2 months ago, I did plug it in to make sure it still ran. I let it run for about an hour and the frost level was really low. And the Compressor sounded a little louder than it normally did. So I shut it off unplugged it and it sat for about two months. Yesterday I plugged it in I got the hum and click. Today I tried it again still got the same results. I had thought maybe the newer relay I put in it went bad. So I tried connecting the original one back up I got the exact same results. I was tempted to try pulling a vacuum on it to see if maybe I could knock a clog loose but R12 is damn expensive and hard to come by these days and I don’t wanna waste it . I do have entire case Office Depot “air duster” here tho. Lol. I keep that stuff on hand for working on electronics it’s always good for blowing and dust out of old radios etc. That could be a Plan B if I decide I’m feeling experimental. Haha. I see. The loud compressor could have been due to excess pressure caused by a restriction; or possibly from seizing due to oil getting trapped in the evaporator and not returning. The air duster is R152A and is very much proven to work in this model of fridge and compressor. But it won't help if the problem is a seized compressor. Definitely needs investigation for sure. Yes. Investigation is right and I don’t think this will be a simple fix. I honestly think it’s seized up. Exactly why that is I’m not sure. But I have a feeling it’s going to become a dust collector. Sadly.
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Post by turbokinetic on Jan 2, 2021 23:33:57 GMT
I see. The loud compressor could have been due to excess pressure caused by a restriction; or possibly from seizing due to oil getting trapped in the evaporator and not returning. The air duster is R152A and is very much proven to work in this model of fridge and compressor. But it won't help if the problem is a seized compressor. Definitely needs investigation for sure. Yes. Investigation is right and I don’t think this will be a simple fix. I honestly think it’s seized up. Exactly why that is I’m not sure. But I have a feeling it’s going to become a dust collector. Sadly. When we are learning troubleshooting at work, one of the first things is to avoid preconceived ideas about things you don't have definitive proof for. In this case, there's really no way to know if it's seized up or not until the discharge line is open and there is for sure no backpressure on the compressor. So hopefully you're mistaken about it.
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Post by ajc31980 on Jan 2, 2021 23:40:47 GMT
Yes. Investigation is right and I don’t think this will be a simple fix. I honestly think it’s seized up. Exactly why that is I’m not sure. But I have a feeling it’s going to become a dust collector. Sadly. When we are learning troubleshooting at work, one of the first things is to avoid preconceived ideas about things you don't have definitive proof for. In this case, there's really no way to know if it's seized up or not until the discharge line is open and there is for sure no backpressure on the compressor. So hopefully you're mistaken about it. You are correct. Some of it has done with the state of mind I’m in do to other things going on. And just don’t have the same kind of income I had when I got started in this hobby . Maybe tomorrow I’ll try pulling a vacuum on it and see what happens. Really don’t have much to loose lol.
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Post by turbokinetic on Jan 2, 2021 23:46:43 GMT
When we are learning troubleshooting at work, one of the first things is to avoid preconceived ideas about things you don't have definitive proof for. In this case, there's really no way to know if it's seized up or not until the discharge line is open and there is for sure no backpressure on the compressor. So hopefully you're mistaken about it. You are correct. Some of it has done with the state of mind I’m in do to other things going on. And just don’t have the same kind of income I had when I got started in this hobby . Maybe tomorrow I’ll try pulling a vacuum on it and see what happens. Really don’t have much to loose lol. Completely understand. This year has been very hard on many of us. I hope that you find it's just a blockage which can be resolved and a new drier fixes it.
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Post by elec573 on Jan 17, 2021 6:14:39 GMT
Aj hang in there I really appreciated meeting you and your friends . It’s soooo. good to meet other fridge geeks ! It’s tough times for a lot of people but if I can help send a pm to me and we’ll go from there.
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Post by ajc31980 on Jan 23, 2021 4:34:55 GMT
Aj hang in there I really appreciated meeting you and your friends . It’s soooo. good to meet other fridge geeks ! It’s tough times for a lot of people but if I can help send a pm to me and we’ll go from there. Hey herb. Thanks for the kind words. It was really good meeting you too ! I think you’re probably the only one that lives sorta kinda close to me lol I’ll be ok. It’s just a rough time for me and lot of others these days. As for for the Ge fridge... I’ve been messaging back and forth with David ( turbo) some and investigated things a little more. David had thought maybe the capillary tube was clogged. I tried a few things. Pulled a full vacuum on the system as well as trying to get it to run with the both the and low side ports wide open. She still just hums till the overload trips. I even tried one of the suppcos 3 in one start kits. Still no luck. So I guess the compressor is toast :-(. I’m not sure if I want to hang onto to it and possibly try installing another compressor down the road or I may just list it on FB market place for parts. Depends on my mood once summer gets here. On a side note ... Has any one every tried installing a newer style compressor on a fridge like this ? I know that’s probably not the favorable way to go on this forum but this fridge is in great shape cosmetically and I did finally find the leaks. They are all on the tubes connecting the different sections the evaporator together. Figure if there is modern equivalent of the original compressor I could maybe make up a metal plate to install the new one on seeing as the mounting would be totally different. Just a thought. Here’s a pic of the model number plate with all the specs.
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