zsuttle
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Location: Hampton Roads, Virginia
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Post by zsuttle on Sept 10, 2019 4:19:15 GMT
That's pretty cool, I didn't really think they would be rebuilding machines. My impression was that a lot of the older units were just tossed, and that's why you see newer units on older cabinets. Makes sense during the war though. But why replace the evaporator? It's the same style unit(it would make sense for a larger evap)The only difference I can tell between the original oven/pig was that there was a different freezing solution used in the higher serial numbers
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Post by Travis on Sept 10, 2019 5:32:17 GMT
I would assume they replaced whatever was the problem. It seemed to be more of a repair/exchange service than a complete rebuild.
The DR35 I have got a newer short control and an updated pair of 1934 evaporators in 1941.
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Post by csulaguy on Sept 11, 2019 8:24:03 GMT
This is pretty cool; the blue pig evaps you were telling me about, Travis.
Now the real kicker - does it work?
I think Travis and/or David were suggesting that some machines, with a steel or aluminum tag with black lettering (and a newer style serial) denote a new build, using a mish mash of parts. I don't know if it's possible this could be one such machine? Either way, that's a pretty awesome find. I just picked up a DR-1 Form F (stainless steel evap) myself which is also fairly rare.
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zsuttle
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Location: Hampton Roads, Virginia
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Post by zsuttle on Sept 19, 2019 1:50:56 GMT
Well, just found another DR relitively close to where I'm going, now debating whether to go for it or the original I found. Figured I'd get some opinions. While on the one hand, I love the white pig evaps moreso than the blue, but I can't say I've ever seen the blue evap on anything else. Either way, my dream is something along the lines of a DR-3, so right generation, just missing a few things. I'll probably stick with the blue DR, but I hate seeing multiple things and not being able to fit everything. Almost makes me wanna rent a Uhaul Here's a picture of it. i50.photobucket.com/albums/f311/zsuttle/00x0x_bwYvhdvVuWA_600x450_zpsbpl7lych.jpg |
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Post by birkie on Sept 20, 2019 15:59:39 GMT
I've never seen a CK float on a DR, that's pretty cool!
That being said, I kind of like the original DR-style floats a bit better, because they have a spring and rod inside that can open up the float orifice if you back out the purge screw enough.
If you are able to get both, I think you are likely to be pleased with that choice. If one top fails, or if you find hidden cabinet rust, then at least you can assemble a working machine out of both. It should be possible to transport two on a pickup. I like separating the tops and the cabinets when travelling with a pickup, with the tops in little crates they rest on.
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zsuttle
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Location: Hampton Roads, Virginia
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Post by zsuttle on Sept 21, 2019 0:57:07 GMT
I'll probably only be getting one, space constraints and all. I'm going to look at the Blue evap tomorrow.
Random question,
Is it ok to leave the unit stored on it's side for like three weeks? I don't know if it would cause any permanant damage or not.
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Post by turbokinetic on Sept 21, 2019 4:43:47 GMT
I'll probably only be getting one, space constraints and all. I'm going to look at the Blue evap tomorrow. Random question, Is it ok to leave the unit stored on it's side for like three weeks? I don't know if it would cause any permanant damage or not. It's OK as long as the cooling unit is securely strapped to the cabinet. Just remember the entire top just "sits there" on the cabinet. |
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Post by elec573 on Sept 21, 2019 5:58:19 GMT
Those are both nice drs , The first has all its racks and woven at that (unusual) and a chiller tray 50$ at least for that .
The second one has a tall control much harder to find . Didn’t see if it had all its racks .
Bottom line I’d take an extension cord and ask if you could try running it . You can pull the original cord off the back of the control, use the female end on your extension cord .
Just run it long enough to see if the motor is actually running.
Drs are prone to shorting out internally.
Expensive to fix if you have the knowledge to open one up for repair.
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zsuttle
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Post by zsuttle on Sept 21, 2019 17:04:04 GMT
Well, looked at the machine, it's a pretty good machine. It's a little rusty, but overall solid. Heater checks out, as does the compressor. Relay chattered a bit, and with a good smack started the compressor. Ran it for a minute, the evap got pretty cold. The only issue? The unit is down a 30 yard hill, in a basement where the unit has 6in clearance above it. We're gonna have to go back with a jack, take off the legs, lower to unit, and then remove the compressor. I thought about tipping the unit on its side while we remove the legs, but the weight is enormous, though that's what we did with the CK.
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Post by turbokinetic on Sept 21, 2019 21:32:27 GMT
Well, looked at the machine, it's a pretty good machine. It's a little rusty, but overall solid. Heater checks out, as does the compressor. Relay chattered a bit, and with a good smack started the compressor. Ran it for a minute, the evap got pretty cold. The only issue? The unit is down a 30 yard hill, in a basement where the unit has 6in clearance above it. We're gonna have to go back with a jack, take off the legs, lower to unit, and then remove the compressor. I thought about tipping the unit on its side while we remove the legs, but the weight is enormous, though that's what we did with the CK. Oh yeah, sounds like a good machine in a bad position! Be careful during your retrieval expedition!
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btfarm
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Post by btfarm on Sept 21, 2019 23:51:45 GMT
I'd be trying to get a small loader tractor, ATV or something of the sort down that hill to haul it up with a pallet to set the top on.
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zsuttle
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Post by zsuttle on Sept 22, 2019 3:15:56 GMT
I'd be trying to get a small loader tractor, ATV or something of the sort down that hill to haul it up with a pallet to set the top on. Yeah, I wish, there's no good way to get anything down the hill, too steep and there isn't a definite path. I wish I would have had some pictures of the area, it was an absolute nightmare. It's gonna be1 a nightmare when we have to move the unit. |
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Post by birkie on Sept 22, 2019 14:43:22 GMT
I rescued a DRB3 from a basement once, see this thread. It's a challenge, but doable. That machine was 250lbs (with the cabinet maybe another 200 with the door off). A DR2 is around 220 or so. If height is too much of a problem to take the top off, tilting the cabinet while lifting it with an engine hoist might get enough clearance to remove the top. Failing that, getting a couple folks to lay it on its side with the help of a hand truck also works. Be careful removing the top so that lines aren't crushed. We had to do that for one machine that was frozen in place with a block of ice around the evaporator. The trick here was to have a piece of wood available for the deck to rest on that was approximately level with the hole in the cabinet. Attaching an engine hoist to it at that point stabilized it so we could pull it out and upright. Good luck! |
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zsuttle
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Post by zsuttle on Oct 2, 2019 20:30:43 GMT
Well, the guy wasn't willing to budge much on price, and given the condition of the cabinet, I don't think it was worth $300. I know it's not going anywhere, so I told him to text me if he changes his mind. Anyways, I found another DR for sale that's closer and a lot cheaper. Attached are some photos, let me know what you think.(Also, what model?) He also has all of the shelves. Seems to be a rare model with backwards facing condenser and breathable control unit. All jokes aside, If I get it, can someone spare a control cover? Also, not sure on the extent of the rust on the back of the evaporator and lines, something to be concerned with? i50.photobucket.com/albums/f311/zsuttle/Monitor%20Top%20DR/20191002_161104_zpsmklynngn.jpgi50.photobucket.com/albums/f311/zsuttle/Monitor%20Top%20DR/IMG_13901_zpsm3n4nhey.jpg |
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Post by turbokinetic on Oct 2, 2019 21:17:58 GMT
Well, the guy wasn't willing to budge much on price, and given the condition of the cabinet, I don't think it was worth $300. I know it's not going anywhere, so I told him to text me if he changes his mind. Anyways, I found another DR for sale that's closer and a lot cheaper. Attached are some photos, let me know what you think.(Also, what model?) He also has all of the shelves. Seems to be a rare model with backwards facing condenser and breathable control unit. All jokes aside, If I get it, can someone spare a control cover? Also, not sure on the extent of the rust on the back of the evaporator and lines, something to be concerned with? i50.photobucket.com/albums/f311/zsuttle/Monitor%20Top%20DR/20191002_161104_zpsmklynngn.jpgi50.photobucket.com/albums/f311/zsuttle/Monitor%20Top%20DR/IMG_13901_zpsm3n4nhey.jpgLOL at the backwards unit. That is often a sign of a real clumsy move attempt, where they tipped the cabinet over, and the unit fell off. The biggest issue you may find is broken lines where the evaporator got snagged on the cabinet as it fell off. That little rust shouldn't be a problem, although the lines going in the evaporator should be looked at closely for deep pitting.
I would inspect it closely for damaged lines; and also inspect the control very carefully for missing or damaged parts which could be hard to replace..... or could indicate misguided troubleshooting attempts and a possibly burned motor.
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