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Post by 76bronco on Sept 28, 2015 15:43:14 GMT
Saved a 1954 GE Combination refrigerator from going to scrap a few years ago. Cleaned it up, plugged it in and it ran like champ. We use it in the basement for beer/extra food storage and came down a few months ago and it wasn't cooling. Unloaded and unplugged to mess with it another day. Plugged it back in a few days later and it began cooling again without an issue. A few weeks ago, my refrigerator alarm went off and it had quit cooling again. I've tried plugging it back in every few days and still not cooling. Compressor doesn't kick on, but I don't hear any clicking sounds coming from the relay on the back. I have limited knowledge of these, so my first move was to replace the relay since that was an easy and quick fix. But I also don't want to throw parts at it just for fun.. Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this to narrow it down? I can perform the troubleshooting, just need help with the road map. =)
As far as I know, everything on it is original.
Thanks in advance for the help!
BRian
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Post by coldspaces on Sept 28, 2015 16:17:22 GMT
If the relay was bad you would most likely still here it try to start and trip off on the overload. If nothing is happening at all the cold control is probably sticking off or has burnt up contacts in it. I have recently worked on a 59/60 combination unit that may be similar.If the same takes a special control that may be hard to find new. Depending on how the knob fits on I may have a new control or may not. Can you post pics and the model #
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Post by 76bronco on Sept 28, 2015 16:42:53 GMT
It's a 1954 LH-12M-G1 Attachments:
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Post by coldspaces on Sept 28, 2015 16:53:59 GMT
Have you tried tapping lightly on the control knob with something. If that jars it on you can bet the problem is the control. I recently found a stash of controls that are all the same # and work on some of these. They do not have the shaft drilled and tapped for the screw in your knob though and may not work in yours. I will look up your model to get the correct # and see.
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Post by coldspaces on Sept 28, 2015 17:23:58 GMT
My Tecmaster book lists your model as a 1955. List GE cold control as #WR9X110, 1987 Gemline catalog only lists a universal control #GC-410. Gemline is no longer around but Supco or Ranco may make the same as the GC-410.
Gemline list relay as WR7168 Mars equivalent is #21310
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Post by 76bronco on Sept 29, 2015 11:52:18 GMT
Thanks so much for the help. I tapped on the cold control knob and the thing started working! I'll start looking around for the Supco or Ranco cold control. 1954 was our best guess, but I'm not sure where exactly we came up with that year. We knew it was in the range. Thanks so much for the help and I'll make sure to save the relay part number in case I need that down the road.
Brian
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Post by coldspaces on Sept 29, 2015 23:22:32 GMT
Your welcome. Hopefully the universal control kits will have an adaptor that will let your original knob screw on. Not sure if they do or not.
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Post by Roy on Nov 19, 2017 18:14:05 GMT
Looking for a freezer handle GE Combination frig. LH-12M thank you!
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Post by blackhorse on Nov 20, 2017 0:18:12 GMT
Looking for a freezer handle GE Combination frig. LH-12M thank you! Certainly not going to know it by that name. Do you have a picture, or pic of the matching refrig handle?
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Post by Matt C on Mar 1, 2018 0:48:04 GMT
I've got an early 50s GE fridge as well. Having some cooling issues myself. I believe the overload on the compressor is sketchy. Any chance anyone has a wiring diagram for this model?
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Post by Matt C on Mar 1, 2018 1:49:26 GMT
I've got an early 50s GE fridge as well. Having some cooling issues myself. I believe the overload on the compressor is sketchy. Any chance anyone has a wiring diagram for this model? It looks exactly like the one pictured above, and is also a LH-12I(?, or could be a 1...hard to tell).
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Post by turbokinetic on Mar 12, 2018 22:12:33 GMT
I've got an early 50s GE fridge as well. Having some cooling issues myself. I believe the overload on the compressor is sketchy. Any chance anyone has a wiring diagram for this model? It looks exactly like the one pictured above, and is also a LH-12I(?, or could be a 1...hard to tell). Hi Matt. I'm new here and the other guys can probably give you a lot more info, but.... Have you taken the overload relay apart? I ask because both of the antique refrigerators I have repaired had worn contacts in their relays. They were combined start and overload relays, with the start contact worn away so as to cause operational problems with the units.
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Post by blackhorse on Mar 15, 2018 17:56:52 GMT
It looks exactly like the one pictured above, and is also a LH-12I(?, or could be a 1...hard to tell). Hi Matt. I'm new here and the other guys can probably give you a lot more info, but.... Have you taken the overload relay apart? I ask because both of the antique refrigerators I have repaired had worn contacts in their relays. They were combined start and overload relays, with the start contact worn away so as to cause operational problems with the units.
I'm pretty sure by the '50's they were using TOD type overloads, which don't come apart without destroying them.......
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Post by turbokinetic on Mar 15, 2018 20:51:28 GMT
Hi Matt. I'm new here and the other guys can probably give you a lot more info, but.... Have you taken the overload relay apart? I ask because both of the antique refrigerators I have repaired had worn contacts in their relays. They were combined start and overload relays, with the start contact worn away so as to cause operational problems with the units.
I'm pretty sure by the '50's they were using TOD type overloads, which don't come apart without destroying them.......
That is a shame. Thankfully on the Frigidaire units, their combination relay is "snap together" and it can be taken apart if you're careful. I guess I got lucky there!
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Post by blackhorse on Mar 15, 2018 21:47:04 GMT
I'm pretty sure by the '50's they were using TOD type overloads, which don't come apart without destroying them.......
That is a shame. Thankfully on the Frigidaire units, their combination relay is "snap together" and it can be taken apart if you're careful. I guess I got lucky there!
I remember those. And the similar Delco hot-wire relays. But I thought they stopped using them before then. My bad.
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