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Post by 1927ge on Aug 20, 2019 18:36:17 GMT
Hi, I purchased the green and white two door from WI. It was a very difficult transaction. It was not negotiable but I finally was able to convince them to accept a money order for the asking price. It’s on its way to Los Angeles now. I’d love to find an early cooling unit for it to replace the CK style that’s on it now. I’d even take a non working one and invest in having it I felt it was unique. I’ll try and link some pictures www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/280387832499855/
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Post by Travis on Aug 20, 2019 19:11:28 GMT
I’m glad someone got it. Good luck in getting it shipped.
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Post by turbokinetic on Aug 20, 2019 21:44:56 GMT
Hey glad you managed to get it. As with Travis, it's never a sure thing until it's safely delivered. We're all going to be nervously awaiting good news of a delivery!
As for locating a "big" DR type unit - those are very scarce. They were powerful enough to wear out sooner than their smaller brothers. They are also heavy enough that the scrap vultures destroyed most of them.
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Post by 1927ge on Aug 28, 2019 1:32:23 GMT
It’s arrived in one piece. More details to follow
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Post by coldspaces on Aug 28, 2019 3:01:43 GMT
Glad to hear it got there!
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Post by 1927ge on Aug 28, 2019 6:15:16 GMT
http://instagram.com/p/B1smqvmg5kl Here’s a link for some pictures! It’s odd that is goes all the way to the floor with an access panel. I’d like to put it up on legs. The porcelain is damaged on the bottom because someone nailed a 2x6 right across the front and back of the case. The colors are fantastic in person. The bottom of the cabinet needs a little wood replacement. I’m contemplating trimming the bottom and finishing it with the nickel strip. Then adding white legs like the standard models. The cooling unit is enormous. The heater is working now, I may turn it on in an hour. Interestingly enough the knob arrows are painted the same green as the cabinet. The right side porcelain panel has a slight outward belly. I have a feeling the dampness from the shed floor worked its way up and may have done some damage. The inside is nice, with wire shelves and wood trim.
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Post by 1927ge on Aug 28, 2019 6:17:52 GMT
I was never aware of the heater much. I always plugged them in and turned them on. After reading various threads I realize how important it it now.
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Post by 1927ge on Aug 28, 2019 6:54:43 GMT
I let it heat for about 30 minutes and flipped the switch. It is running, it was super quiet at first, now it’s making the typical slightly metallic fan type noise with some rushing sounds. I’ll find out if it’s cooling soon
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Post by 1927ge on Aug 28, 2019 7:34:02 GMT
It’s quiet as a mouse. I’ve always had DR machines. It’s evenly frosted and running silently. The porcelain inside has some pinholes in the top. It probably had wet insulation inside at some point. Nice running machine.
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Post by cablehack on Aug 28, 2019 8:43:46 GMT
I was never aware of the heater much. I always plugged them in and turned them on. After reading various threads I realize how important it it now. Only the DR and CA units have heaters. Your CK unit uses a Scotch Yoke compressor which is different to earlier designs, in that the dome operates on the low side and there's no heater. If you suspect wet insulation, it's essential to deal with it before the cabinet ends up like this www.flickr.com/photos/13469158@N05/9282939924/in/album-72157633054793795/
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Post by turbokinetic on Aug 28, 2019 13:12:39 GMT
Here’s a link for some pictures! It’s odd that is goes all the way to the floor with an access panel. I’d like to put it up on legs. The porcelain is damaged on the bottom because someone nailed a 2x6 right across the front and back of the case. The colors are fantastic in person. The bottom of the cabinet needs a little wood replacement. I’m contemplating trimming the bottom and finishing it with the nickel strip. Then adding white legs like the standard models. The cooling unit is enormous. The heater is working now, I may turn it on in an hour. Interestingly enough the knob arrows are painted the same green as the cabinet. The right side porcelain panel has a slight outward belly. I have a feeling the dampness from the shed floor worked its way up and may have done some damage. The inside is nice, with wire shelves and wood trim. Hey wonderful that you got her in your place, safely! It seems that many of the side panels are a little bulged outward. Some of them are curved from the manufacturing process and when they aren't completely and properly fastened; this is the result. It may be that some of the wood is deteriorated where the screws attach the paneling. Once that's fixed, it will lay flat again. The bottom with cover instead of legs is really different! Back in this era, Frigidaire also offered models which sat directly on the floor. Interestingly, they were also often two-tone, with grey and white instead of green and white. In my opinion (and this is just an opinion) they look a little incomplete when sitting directly on the floor. One of the reasons GE used legs was for cabinet access. The other manufacturers had the machinery space at the bottom, thereby elevating the cabinet and easing access to the interior. The Monitor Top had the cooling unit at the top. There were customers who didn't want to stoop all the way to floor level to get items out of the cabinet, so the legs were very popular. Cablehack already explained that the CK machine doesn't have a heater. It is really, really good that you had the presence of mind to "let it heat up" and error on the side of caution. If you're interested, I'll try to explain why the CK doesn't need a heater. For the DR and CA cooling units, the refrigerant gas exiting the compressor is pumped into the dome on the top of the unit. It needs to stay in a gas form until it starts to flow through the condenser coil. The gas wants to condense in the coolest place of the high-pressure side of the system. You don't want it staying in the compressor housing, so the heater makes that area a "hot and unattractive" location for it to collect. So for this system to work, the condenser and the float chamber must be cooler than the compressor housing. The heater ensures this is the case. The CK doesn't need a heater because the compressor pumps the hot gas refrigerant "directy" out into the condenser coils, without the high pressure gas ever going into he dome of the compressor where it could condense accidentally. The compressor dome is under low pressure. The low pressure created when the compressor runs will boil off any stray refrigerant from this area without any additional heat. Yeah the CK machines are, arguable, the most highly refined and engineered hermetic units. They are so over-engineered it's really a shame that the parts are hidden away inside the dome!
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Post by 1927ge on Aug 28, 2019 16:35:51 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the insulation is bad. The gasket between the motor and the cabinet is petrified and the insulation must have been sweating to cause the top of the inside porcelain to begin to deteriorate.
The cabinet is a little more than I want to deal with right now. Without the cooling unit I can work on it and decide how much I want to fix. The base is so shabby and I really do prefer it up on Legs. Plus I don’t like the access panel to nothing sitting right on the floor.
I think if the legs were green to match it would look fantastic.
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Post by turbokinetic on Aug 29, 2019 1:06:36 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the insulation is bad. The gasket between the motor and the cabinet is petrified and the insulation must have been sweating to cause the top of the inside porcelain to begin to deteriorate. The cabinet is a little more than I want to deal with right now. Without the cooling unit I can work on it and decide how much I want to fix. The base is so shabby and I really do prefer it up on Legs. Plus I don’t like the access panel to nothing sitting right on the floor. I think if the legs were green to match it would look fantastic. One of the things which happens to the older cabinets is SO2 leaks and corrosion. The original DR machine which came on this cabinet was surely not completely trouble-free. You can bet that it required servicing and possibly leaked SO2 into the cabinet, leading to extreme corrosion between the cabinet liner and the outer shell. There is a porcelain company who could do up a set of legs in green for you! Check out www.ipe-porcelain.com/ Sincerely, David
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Post by 1927ge on Aug 29, 2019 1:18:03 GMT
Thanks David! I’ll check them out! It’s gonna be much prettier that way.
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Post by Travis on Aug 29, 2019 13:20:13 GMT
What you have is a an early Seeger cabinet and even more rare colored model. It would be a shame if you were to modify it, in my opinion.
My 27 DR3 has a similar cabinet, but in white. I might restore it, but it’s staying on wheels.
Matteo, your missing the wheels. No wonder you dislike it.
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