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Post by coldspaces on Sept 13, 2013 3:28:33 GMT
I sent Sporlan an email yesterday and told them I was working on a few old so2 refrigerators and trying to find a filter and/or drier compatible.
Got this response.
Our filters are not approved for use with SO2.
Steve _____________________________________________ Applications & Technical Support Sporlan Division | Parker Hannifin Corporation
Sure would have thought there might have been something other than just strainers back then but I guess not. Looks like Sporlan developed their first filter drier in the 40s
From the history of Sporlan
During the early 1940's, numbers of valves were returned as "defective" which had nothing wrong in either material or workmanship. Inspection showed that the valves became inoperative on systems because of dirt and moisture, leading to considerable interest in developing a filter-drier. Silica gel appeared to have the lead as desiccant with its wide use in the industry; however, the drier cores made using silica gel and a binder left something to be desired. Sporlan decided to proceed with the filter-drier project using activated alumina, which retained moisture at higher temperatures than silica gel, removed acids from refrigerants, and the core proved an excellent filter. The Catch-All was born.
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Post by ChrisJ on Sept 13, 2013 3:32:51 GMT
I had two different people who are, or where chemists tell me they saw absolutely on reason a drier wouldn't work with methyl formate. I assume the same is true for SO2.
They told me to stay away from pellet types and to go for the solid core ones. They also said no company would put their neck on the line for something they had not tested, however the worst that could happen is the drier would absorb the refrigerant and then be useless, but no harm would come of it.
I did not plan for it, at least not yet but I am tempted in the future.
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Post by coldspaces on Sept 13, 2013 3:41:28 GMT
My DR is running on 134A so I know I should be safe with a modern drier. If I open the system again in the future I would love to add one. Don't want it to show on the outside though. Been hoping to find one that for sure will not chemically react with so2. Not sure I know any chemists to ask.
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Post by ChrisJ on Sept 13, 2013 4:11:16 GMT
This is the actual response from one of the guys I had asked.
"Chris,
Although no one is willing to go "out on a limb" to guarantee refrigerant compatibility, refrigerant desiccants generally fall into two categories- activated alumina and molecular sieve materials that generally looks like this: Ca4,5 [(Al02)12(SiO2)12] ยท nH2O. There are variants to the m-sieve, changing the cation varies the pore size. Not really an issue for you.
Most good line driers are a mix of pellets of alumina and m-sieve pellets. There is some compatibility issue with m-sieve using certain 500 class HCFC's, but no reported issues with straight HC refrigerants. The 'issue' is not severe, it is simply binding of the refrigerant to the substrate, reducing the active refrigerant level in a system. There is no chemical breakdown of either that I can see that would produce acids or contaminant release.
One issue I did (I think?) mention earlier was abrasive fines in the system, and unfortunately all pellet filled driers produce them as they age. For this reason I would use a solid-core rather than pellet drier if possible.
I have a .pdf from Parker Hannifin explaining their solid-core line (Spoorlan Catch-all) and showing the internals of both pellet and solid core driers. I cannot attach it here to a PM so I will email it if you provide an email address."
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Post by coldspaces on Sept 13, 2013 4:32:35 GMT
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