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Post by coldspaces on Jun 26, 2014 23:40:59 GMT
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Post by coldspaces on Jun 26, 2014 23:58:59 GMT
Here are some shots of the liquid line and its injector tube. The tube passes through the front passage to the other side. Here is where it tuns to the back on the other side. This the passage the tube runs in from front to back. Here it all is. The 5 center passages get liquid injected into them through little holes in the tube. The two front and back tubes get liquid that is in the headers feed down into them. As you can see the end is of course brazed shut so all the refrigerant has to go out the injector holes.
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Post by cablehack on Jun 27, 2014 1:35:20 GMT
Thanks so much for that! Brilliant piece of work there. It's much as I thought, but to see it for real is totally different to just imagining it and seeing the drawing. No doubt it was the little holes at the end that were blocked up with my CA-2 evaporator. Two things; the green stuff has me curious - mine always had clear oil, and also the routing of the high side tube. I had always felt that it went through the equaliser tube down the other side, but evidently not.
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Post by coldspaces on Jun 27, 2014 2:12:09 GMT
Yep the little holes must have been plugged on yours. Here is a pic I made after labeling the flow on the side. The front and back two passes must just fill by gravity. With the equalizer tube between the headers the suction of the compressor would not directly pull it through those four passages.
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Post by allan on Jun 27, 2014 2:29:15 GMT
Great job! This is great stuff, I love it!!
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Post by cablehack on Jun 27, 2014 2:30:59 GMT
That first little hole is the only place the refrigerant comes out of when flow is severely restricted. There's a tiny dot of frost around where it is. There's a lot to take in with your pics, but one thing I notice is I can see why the equaliser tube connections are so prone to leaking - there's not much mechanical strength at the joins.
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Post by ChrisJ on Jun 27, 2014 2:41:27 GMT
Excellent pictures Thank you!
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Post by ChrisJ on Jun 27, 2014 2:45:39 GMT
I'm curious if this evaporator was left exposed to the atmosphere for a long time or if there is a chance a sealed system could have such corrosion.
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Post by coldspaces on Jun 27, 2014 4:59:23 GMT
I'm curious if this evaporator was left exposed to the atmosphere for a long time or if there is a chance a sealed system could have such corrosion. I didn't ask Travis how long this coil sat around but I think it has been open to the atmosphere for some time. The green tint to the oil must be from the copper tube in the system. Kinda suggests that some corrosion was going on in the system before it died.
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Post by Travis on Jun 29, 2014 23:14:12 GMT
That evaporator has been cut off of a unit two years or so. I don't remember the unit. It would have been a CA2B. I am much more willing to kill those than the CA2A.
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Post by cablehack on Jun 29, 2014 23:24:16 GMT
I am much more willing to kill those than the CA2A. I've noticed that no one here apart from myself really likes form B machines. The vultures swarm over form A's...but form B is seen as boring and worthless. Why is that? I'm not trying to be critical, but just curious.
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Post by Travis on Jun 29, 2014 23:31:58 GMT
Honestly, I think if you want something that looks like a CA form B, you might as well get a CK and not deal with all the CA issues.
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Post by ChrisJ on Jun 29, 2014 23:33:41 GMT
Actually, I prefer the looks of the B machines as well as the CK machines. I ended up with a form A by accident and it just is what it is. I'd like to have a 1935 CK machine at one point because I like how they look and as we know you can't beat them.
I do want a CA-1-A16 as well, but that's more for the fact it's so rare.
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Post by cablehack on Jun 30, 2014 1:24:00 GMT
Honestly, I think if you want something that looks like a CA form B, you might as well get a CK and not deal with all the CA issues. Funnily enough, that thought has crossed my mind during the more frustrating times...except that I don't have the luxury of being able to choose what model I have. Anyway, that would be giving in and taking the easy way out, and I wouldn't have learned anything. Besides, I think it's quaint having methyl formate in my fridges instead of the common refrigerants. Really, the CA issues are things which once fixed shouldn't return; as demonstrated with my CA-1. The problems with my CA-2 were really a result of how it was previously treated, not an inherent fault as such. I guess the point is that someone can just buy a CK and use it, whereas a CA always has to be restored. On that basis I'd never recommend a CA to someone unable to do the work. Just imagine if I was in the U.S. and advertised for non working CA form B's...I'd be inundated
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Post by Travis on Jun 30, 2014 1:40:18 GMT
I understand the importance of the challenge, but I would happily accept a DR3 with a CK compressor.
I am not sure if I agree with the thought that CA issues once treated are solved. GE must have had trouble with the CA's to abandon them so quickly. I would love to know their reasoning on that.
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