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Post by cr500 on Apr 4, 2024 21:56:52 GMT
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Post by cablehack on Apr 5, 2024 1:19:22 GMT
Nice Flat Top! Quite rare to have a Freon 12 version too. I think this would be the first one on the forum.
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Post by turbokinetic on Apr 5, 2024 14:15:30 GMT
I just purchased my first vintage refrigerator from the daughter of the original owner. Her mother recently passed away at 98 years of age. I rented a box truck and carefully brought it back to my house last weekend. I've had it running for a few days now, and it works great! It's holding a temperature of 37° with the temperature control setting set to number 2. I can't believe how well she runs for being 80 years old. The compressor is quieter than my modern refrigerator; I was expecting it to be much louder. The refrigerant type on the compressor tag is Freon 12. I need to replace the door seal and see if I can find a freezer door cover. Does anyone on the forum know where I may be able to source these parts? I have looked online for the door seal but haven't been able to find one that looks similar to mine. Very nice Flat Top! As Cablehack said, there aren't many of these with Freon-12 from the factory. Please do share pictures of the tag and compressor. As for the gasket, I have been very pleased with the gaskets purchased from Lowe's as window weatherstripping. Here is a link to a post about it. Unfortunately I can't share pictures here at the moment. www.facebook.com/groups/1223144641055129/posts/7218760468160153/
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Post by ckfan on Apr 5, 2024 15:03:29 GMT
Very nice flat top. Looks very similar to my 1940 Hotpoint flat top.
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Post by cr500 on Apr 6, 2024 5:37:34 GMT
I just purchased my first vintage refrigerator from the daughter of the original owner. Her mother recently passed away at 98 years of age. I rented a box truck and carefully brought it back to my house last weekend. I've had it running for a few days now, and it works great! It's holding a temperature of 37° with the temperature control setting set to number 2. I can't believe how well she runs for being 80 years old. The compressor is quieter than my modern refrigerator; I was expecting it to be much louder. The refrigerant type on the compressor tag is Freon 12. I need to replace the door seal and see if I can find a freezer door cover. Does anyone on the forum know where I may be able to source these parts? I have looked online for the door seal but haven't been able to find one that looks similar to mine. Very nice Flat Top! As Cablehack said, there aren't many of these with Freon-12 from the factory. Please do share pictures of the tag and compressor. As for the gasket, I have been very pleased with the gaskets purchased from Lowe's as window weatherstripping. Here is a link to a post about it. Unfortunately I can't share pictures here at the moment. www.facebook.com/groups/1223144641055129/posts/7218760468160153/ Thanks for the response! I'm so glad I found this form; it's an excellent source for information on vintage refrigerators. I love my new fridge; it makes me smile every time I walk by it. It's really cool to learn that it's a rare Freon 12 model. I took some pictures of the compressor and the tag so you can see them.
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Post by turbokinetic on Apr 6, 2024 13:09:19 GMT
Thanks for the response! I'm so glad I found this form; it's an excellent source for information on vintage refrigerators. I love my new fridge; it makes me smile every time I walk by it. It's really cool to learn that it's a rare Freon 12 model. I took some pictures of the compressor and the tag so you can see them. Very nice to see! GE only used this design for a year or two, because some people noticed more noise with the Freon versus SO2. Freon-12 mixes with the oil and causes foaming and oil dilution. Since these have an oil pump inside, there was some chattering or sputtering under certain conditions. You may occasionally notice that but it won't affect the machine in any way.
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Post by cr500 on Apr 15, 2024 7:11:21 GMT
Thanks for the response! I'm so glad I found this form; it's an excellent source for information on vintage refrigerators. I love my new fridge; it makes me smile every time I walk by it. It's really cool to learn that it's a rare Freon 12 model. I took some pictures of the compressor and the tag so you can see them. Very nice to see! GE only used this design for a year or two, because some people noticed more noise with the Freon versus SO2. Freon-12 mixes with the oil and causes foaming and oil dilution. Since these have an oil pump inside, there was some chattering or sputtering under certain conditions. You may occasionally notice that but it won't affect the machine in any way. I haven't noticed any chattering or sputtering. It may be happening, but I perceive it as a normal operation with my untrained ears. I ordered some MD auto/marine weatherseal to use as a replacement door gasket, and I plan to do a rewire of the machine. The original wiring actually looks to be in pretty good condition, but I would like to replace it for peace of mind. What type of wire do you recommend for the retrofit?
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Post by cr500 on Apr 15, 2024 12:16:26 GMT
Looking at the compressor tag, I see that it has a maximum draw of 4 Amps. I was thinking of using some high quality SJOW 16/3 wire that I have left over from another project. I read ckfans excellent rewiring guide, but I didn't see a wire gauge listed. Should I be good to go with the 16/3, or would it be a better choice to pick up some 14/3 for a greater safety margin? I figured, it'd be a good idea to run this by you guys with all of your restoration experience, before I move forward.
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Post by ckfan on Apr 15, 2024 13:58:19 GMT
I would think 16 gauge would be fine for this application. It can carry 13 amps safely. The brief burst you get when the machine starts should be fine. I’ve used 16 gauge and have not had any issues. It will also make re wiring it easier. If one of the true experts disagrees, please let us know.
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Post by turbokinetic on Apr 15, 2024 14:09:26 GMT
Either 16 or 18 AWG is OK. I prefer lower profile cable for a number of reasons.
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Post by cr500 on Apr 18, 2024 15:24:44 GMT
I would think 16 gauge would be fine for this application. It can carry 13 amps safely. The brief burst you get when the machine starts should be fine. I’ve used 16 gauge and have not had any issues. It will also make re wiring it easier. If one of the true experts disagrees, please let us know. Thanks for the advice; I greatly appreciate it. The re-wire is coming along nicely. In one of your earlier posts, you mentioned that your 1940 Hotpoint looks similar to my fridge. I was wondering if there is any cross-compatibility between parts on the two models. Could the draws, racks, or freezer door from a 1940s-era Hotpoint fit my model?
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Post by cr500 on Apr 18, 2024 15:40:49 GMT
Either 16 or 18 AWG is OK. I prefer lower profile cable for a number of reasons. Thanks for the confirmation. I decided to go with the 16 AWG. Have you ever added a chassis ground to any of your vintage refrigerators? I was contemplating installing one for additional safety.
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Post by turbokinetic on Apr 18, 2024 15:51:39 GMT
Either 16 or 18 AWG is OK. I prefer lower profile cable for a number of reasons. Thanks for the confirmation. I decided to go with the 16 AWG. Have you ever added a chassis ground to any of your vintage refrigerators? I was contemplating installing one for additional safety. Yep, I always, 100% of the time; add a chassis ground.
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Post by ckfan on Apr 19, 2024 12:47:17 GMT
I would think 16 gauge would be fine for this application. It can carry 13 amps safely. The brief burst you get when the machine starts should be fine. I’ve used 16 gauge and have not had any issues. It will also make re wiring it easier. If one of the true experts disagrees, please let us know. Thanks for the advice; I greatly appreciate it. The re-wire is coming along nicely. In one of your earlier posts, you mentioned that your 1940 Hotpoint looks similar to my fridge. I was wondering if there is any cross-compatibility between parts on the two models. Could the draws, racks, or freezer door from a 1940s-era Hotpoint fit my model? I’m honestly not sure. They would have to be the same cubic foot size.
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Post by cr500 on Apr 19, 2024 13:06:59 GMT
Thanks for the confirmation. I decided to go with the 16 AWG. Have you ever added a chassis ground to any of your vintage refrigerators? I was contemplating installing one for additional safety. Yep, I always, 100% of the time; add a chassis ground. Would you advise the installation of an inline fuse for additional overload protection? I was thinking of adding a 10-amp fuse for added protection/redundancy.
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