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Post by heyred on Aug 22, 2021 18:48:55 GMT
Very stoked to have found this old fridge. Model CA-1-B16. I’m a total newb to these machines and I’m hoping you guys can direct me to some threads or offer some advice on where to start. I bought this machine at an estate sale this weekend. Everything external seems to be in fairly good condition. The racks and chiller dish are there which was a happy sight. Ive plugged it in…the light comes on. When I turn the switch to “on” I get a labored buzzing, but no sign of the condenser running. One thing that i hope didnt foul things up; I paid an extra 25 bucks to have a couple of the estate sale guys deliver to my house. I made sure to ask them to deliver it upright, and of course when they got here it was on its side and had been for about 24 hours according to them. How bad is that? Anyway, I haven’t dug into it yet…I’m afraid to get in over my head without first seeking some guidance from this forum and others places. Any help on the next steps I should take is really appreciated. Thanks for taking a look.
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Post by turbokinetic on Aug 22, 2021 19:30:54 GMT
Very stoked to have found this old fridge. Model CA-1-B16. I’m a total newb to these machines and I’m hoping you guys can direct me to some threads or offer some advice on where to start. I bought this machine at an estate sale this weekend. Everything external seems to be in fairly good condition. The racks and chiller dish are there which was a happy sight. Ive plugged it in…the light comes on. When I turn the switch to “on” I get a labored buzzing, but no sign of the condenser running. One thing that i hope didnt foul things up; I paid an extra 25 bucks to have a couple of the estate sale guys deliver to my house. I made sure to ask them to deliver it upright, and of course when they got here it was on its side and had been for about 24 hours according to them. How bad is that? Anyway, I haven’t dug into it yet…I’m afraid to get in over my head without first seeking some guidance from this forum and others places. Any help on the next steps I should take is really appreciated. Thanks for taking a look. View AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentWelcome to the forum! That is a nice looking CA machine. The laying on the side isn't really all that bad for these so I don't think this is what is the problem. The buzzing noise is caused by the compressor being stalled and unable to start up. The magnetic field from the motor causes an internal vibration which leads to the buzzing. The reason for the start failure could be one of two things. Either, it's the start-relay not making contact; or the compressor is mechanically stuck because that is what CA machines do over time. They get stuck. This is caused by a combination of excess noncondensable gas combined with a failed crankcase oil heater. There are several threads on here about how to test the heater, verify the start-relay is working, and purge out noncondensable gases. Do a little searching and reading, and there are several of us here who can assist. Sincerely, David
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Post by heyred on Aug 22, 2021 20:16:54 GMT
That is a nice looking CA machine. The laying on the side isn't really all that bad for these so I don't think this is what is the problem. The buzzing noise is caused by the compressor being stalled and unable to start up. The magnetic field from the motor causes an internal vibration which leads to the buzzing. The reason for the start failure could be one of two things. Either, it's the start-relay not making contact; or the compressor is mechanically stuck because that is what CA machines do over time. They get stuck. This is caused by a combination of excess noncondensable gas combined with a failed crankcase oil heater. There are several threads on here about how to test the heater, verify the start-relay is working, and purge out noncondensable gases. Do a little searching and reading, and there are several of us here who can assist. Sincerely, David Excellent. Thanks for the reply. I’ll get to searching and reading up on these issues and report back. Thanks!
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Post by turbokinetic on Aug 22, 2021 20:25:53 GMT
That is a nice looking CA machine. The laying on the side isn't really all that bad for these so I don't think this is what is the problem. The buzzing noise is caused by the compressor being stalled and unable to start up. The magnetic field from the motor causes an internal vibration which leads to the buzzing. The reason for the start failure could be one of two things. Either, it's the start-relay not making contact; or the compressor is mechanically stuck because that is what CA machines do over time. They get stuck. This is caused by a combination of excess noncondensable gas combined with a failed crankcase oil heater. There are several threads on here about how to test the heater, verify the start-relay is working, and purge out noncondensable gases. Do a little searching and reading, and there are several of us here who can assist. Sincerely, David Excellent. Thanks for the reply. I’ll get to searching and reading up on these issues and report back. Thanks! Here's one which was rough. Might give you some ideas on the heater etc. https://youtu.be/r3eWDKbGQw0
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Post by heyred on Aug 23, 2021 20:13:18 GMT
Excellent. Thanks for the reply. I’ll get to searching and reading up on these issues and report back. Thanks! Here's one which was rough. Might give you some ideas on the heater etc. https://youtu.be/r3eWDKbGQw0 Thanks man. I think the problem is I have no idea what this dude is talking about LOL. Ive got very little experience with electronics and most of the language is Greek to me.
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Post by redtangox on Aug 23, 2021 20:35:12 GMT
Thanks man. I think the problem is I have no idea what this dude is talking about LOL. Ive got very little experience with electronics and most of the language is Greek to me. Hi Heyred - David shared his own video, so you're chatting with the creator of it. It may seem daunting at first, but check out a lot of the videos on his channel and you will start to learn a lot more and everything will eventually click. Even if you don't completely understand, just mimic the steps and report your findings on this forum. It's a great community and you will find many people are here help.
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Post by heyred on Aug 23, 2021 21:10:43 GMT
Thanks man. I think the problem is I have no idea what this dude is talking about LOL. Ive got very little experience with electronics and most of the language is Greek to me. Hi Heyred - David shared his own video, so you're chatting with the creator of it. It may seem daunting at first, but check out a lot of the videos on his channel and you will start to learn a lot more and everything will eventually click. Even if you don't completely understand, just mimic the steps and report your findings on this forum. It's a great community and you will find many people are here help. Thanks. yeah, I’m looking froward to learning from everyone here….man I hope i didn’t imply anything negative about the video. Pointing at myself for being absent the day they taught all of the language used. I’ll take it step by step and see what i can come up with.
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Post by redtangox on Aug 24, 2021 18:06:21 GMT
Thanks. yeah, I’m looking froward to learning from everyone here….man I hope i didn’t imply anything negative about the video. Pointing at myself for being absent the day they taught all of the language used. I’ll take it step by step and see what i can come up with. No worries! Were you able to diagnose anything else on the machine? Hopefully it will be as easy as getting the start relay in proper order. That video David shared is a great example of how to check the resistance on the machine. Even if you're not sure what the numbers mean, the group help decipher them. If you're able, a video will speak volumes.
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