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Post by Travis on Nov 5, 2018 17:18:02 GMT
Do we know exactly when the meter-miser was released? The Kold-Chest is dated 1934 I believe. The Super line of Frigidaire is the last style shown in my older Frigidaire service manual. This manual is dated 1930 and Jan 1934. I don't see any meter-misers in it. I am sure they were working on it, but developing and releasing them are separate issues.
No one wants to release products without the necessary testing and service support in place.
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Post by turbokinetic on Nov 5, 2018 17:21:29 GMT
Do we know exactly when the meter-miser was released? The Kold-Chest is dated 1934 I believe. The Super line of Frigidaire is the last style shown in my older Frigidaire service manual. This manual is dated 1930 and Jan 1934. I don't see any meter-misers in it. I am sure they were working on it, but developing and releasing them are separate issues. No one wants to release products without the necessary testing and service support in place.
This is very true, about the untested products.
I don't have any documentation as to when the first Meter-Miser came out, but was under the impression it was 1934.
The manual you gave me doesn't show this style of control in it. Does yours by chance show the proper evaporator temperature based on control position?
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Post by Travis on Nov 5, 2018 17:56:09 GMT
Oh by the way, it says 1/6 lb of oil per 1 lb of refrigerant.
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Post by birkie on Nov 6, 2018 3:10:26 GMT
Do we know exactly when the meter-miser was released? The Kold-Chest is dated 1934 I believe. The Super line of Frigidaire is the last style shown in my older Frigidaire service manual. This manual is dated 1930 and Jan 1934. I don't see any meter-misers in it. I am sure they were working on it, but developing and releasing them are separate issues. 1933, according to Nagengast (ASHRAE Journal, January 1998, page 46. Interestingly, the same article mentions Westinghouse compressors of the kind we got to see the insides of recently.) |
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Post by ckfan on Nov 6, 2018 15:13:36 GMT
Do we know exactly when the meter-miser was released? The Kold-Chest is dated 1934 I believe. The Super line of Frigidaire is the last style shown in my older Frigidaire service manual. This manual is dated 1930 and Jan 1934. I don't see any meter-misers in it. I am sure they were working on it, but developing and releasing them are separate issues. No one wants to release products without the necessary testing and service support in place. I had always thought that the release date was 35 but then the Koldchest came along. Then I thought it had to be 34. Now with the help of the old article from Bernard Nanegast it shows an advertisement from 33. This is why I want to sit down with him at some point for a few days and pick his brain. He has so much knowledge. According to the article this was the very first hermetic to use CFCs. Makes sense due to Frigidaire working with DuPont I believe to get 114 and 12 made. I think they may have made others at that point too like 11 but I’m not sure about that. This was brand new technology and I think Frigidaire May have been releasing the meter misers on a limited basis. I do know that the very first ones were severely underpowered. I’ve only seen the 1/12 hp ones and they take a long time to cool but are effective. At that point they used 1/20 hp ones like the one in my Koldchest. Those take all day to cool off. There were teething problems for sure. I need to get more of the details of the timeline. Sorry but I can’t find a link to the article! |
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Post by ckfan on Nov 6, 2018 15:14:58 GMT
Do we know exactly when the meter-miser was released? The Kold-Chest is dated 1934 I believe. The Super line of Frigidaire is the last style shown in my older Frigidaire service manual. This manual is dated 1930 and Jan 1934. I don't see any meter-misers in it. I am sure they were working on it, but developing and releasing them are separate issues. 1933, according to Nagengast (ASHRAE Journal, January 1998, page 46. Interestingly, the same article mentions Westinghouse compressors of the kind we got to see the insides of recently.) Sorry, I should have read further down! You beat me to it! |
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Post by turbokinetic on Nov 6, 2018 15:34:37 GMT
Do we know exactly when the meter-miser was released? The Kold-Chest is dated 1934 I believe. The Super line of Frigidaire is the last style shown in my older Frigidaire service manual. This manual is dated 1930 and Jan 1934. I don't see any meter-misers in it. I am sure they were working on it, but developing and releasing them are separate issues. No one wants to release products without the necessary testing and service support in place.. Then I thought it had to be 34. Now with the help of the old article from Bernard Nanegast it shows an advertisement from 33. This is why I want to sit down with him at some point for a few days and pick his brain. He has so much knowledge. According to the article this was the very first hermetic to use CFCs. Makes sense due to Frigidaire working with DuPont I believe to get 114 and 12 made. I think they may have made others at that point too like 11 but I’m not sure about that. This was brand new technology and I think Frigidaire May have been releasing the meter misers on a limited basis. I do know that the very first ones were severely underpowered. I’ve only seen the 1/12 hp ones and they take a long time to cool but are effective. At that point they used 1/20 hp ones like the one in my Koldchest. Those take all day to cool off. There were teething problems for sure. I need to get more of the details of the timeline. Sorry but I can’t find a link to the article!
Hey Ray, I added bold above to call out some points I noticed. As Travis said, Frigidaire were very afraid to harm their reputation at the time. They were king at the time. Any new product had the opportunity to harm a hard-earned and valuable name.
We've all commented how things like the Koldchest and GE's similar offering were silly and pointless. This is true, considering it had all the same parts and therefore manufacturing cost as a full size unit. However, it may have been a post-beta trial attempt. In other words, it was intended to be sold to the general public, but was intentionally aimed at a niche market. It could also have been priced at a near loss, so as to get the technology out there. They may have wanted to send a moderate amount of these out in the wild, to see how they hold up - but keeping them under the radar until the design is proven. If a relatively small run of cheap silly small fridges failed, they could quietly take them back and issue refunds, a new belt-drive model, or some other peace offering to the customer. If they lasted, then the technology could be further deployed.
This is just conjecture on my part!
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Post by ckfan on Nov 6, 2018 17:11:27 GMT
I would agree with that assessment. I would also add that the Koldchest apparently wasn’t the only model to receive the new meter miser. In the mentioned ad there is a normal looking small refrigerator. I would guess they had a limited release at first but then saw that it worked well, then they tinkered a bit and made it work for larger cabinets I guess. I would love to learn more about the history of Frigidaire instead of just making guesses.
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Post by cherry on Feb 11, 2024 20:24:42 GMT
Hello! I have been searching everywhere to find someone to work on my Refrigerator. It is this exact model. I bought it and was told that it ran,very carefully put it in my truck and brought it home and during the time the motor separated and fell off to the side. I really would like to use this refrigerator. Do you know of anyone who in Michigan who may work on these?
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Post by turbokinetic on Feb 11, 2024 20:48:40 GMT
Hello! I have been searching everywhere to find someone to work on my Refrigerator. It is this exact model. I bought it and was told that it ran,very carefully put it in my truck and brought it home and during the time the motor separated and fell off to the side. I really would like to use this refrigerator. Do you know of anyone who in Michigan who may work on these? I am so very sorry that your Frigidaire suffered this damage in transit. It seems the seller didn't know to tell you that it needs transport lock bolts installed before it's moved. Unfortunately I don't know anyone in Michigan who could take care of this. There are only a very small handful of people who do work on belt drive units. I am in Alabama which would involve shipping or a road trip. How much damage was done? Has it broken lines and allowed the refrigerant gas to escape? Sincerely, David |
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Post by elec573 on Feb 13, 2024 4:54:37 GMT
Nice job on the fridge! It would be nice to get some good pictures and measurements on that door sticker so we could add
it to our collection. Don’t think we’ll get another opportunity to see one in such good condition again.
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