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Post by turbokinetic on Oct 31, 2018 2:01:25 GMT
I’m a chicken about it too. When I just barely cracked the purge screw it sent me flying across the room! It'll make you do that! Reminds me of when Andrew's CK with broken evaporator line gassed us out of a mini storage unit!
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Post by csulaguy on Oct 31, 2018 2:23:26 GMT
I’m a chicken about it too. When I just barely cracked the purge screw it sent me flying across the room! Did it really smell that bad?
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Post by birkie on Oct 31, 2018 2:39:39 GMT
Did it really smell that bad? The smell is insignificant, in my opinion. It's the sensation. Like being punched in the face unexpectedly, or sticking your head in a flue. The body instinctively recoils away as a kind of pain reaction. In any case, releasing liquid SO2 trapped in a valve body would be a miserable experience!
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Post by turbokinetic on Oct 31, 2018 3:00:30 GMT
I’m a chicken about it too. When I just barely cracked the purge screw it sent me flying across the room! Did it really smell that bad? Paul, SO2 is a powerful irritant. The smell is not "disgusting" like some organic smell or sewage or anything like that. It's just a metallic, salty, pungent odor. The problem is, it causes immediate eye watering, burning nose and snot running, closes up the airways and causes immediate wheezing and coughing. It's a very unpleasant experience and you just HAVE to get out of it. It's toxic and you just reflexively move out of it.
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Post by Travis on Oct 31, 2018 4:17:47 GMT
Oh come on, man up. I fumigated my driveway when I released the demon from an old belt drive today. I opened a valve, caught a whiff. moved away. I later wanted to open another fitting. I took a deep breath elsewhere, came and closed the first valve, cracked the second fitting and reopened the first valve. It didn't bother my eyes as I was outside and had more air.
Then I left before a neighbor could notice.
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Post by csulaguy on Oct 31, 2018 5:32:19 GMT
Oh come on, man up. I fumigated my driveway when I released the demon from an old belt drive today. I opened a valve, caught a whiff. moved away. I later wanted to open another fitting. I took a deep breath elsewhere, came and closed the first valve, cracked the second fitting and reopened the first valve. It didn't bother my eyes as I was outside and had more air. Then I left before a neighbor could notice. No nitrogen to purge the SO2 so you don't corrode the hell out of it?
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Post by Travis on Oct 31, 2018 14:47:26 GMT
Paul,
I had a nearly full system of so2. The unit would have to be completely rebuilt if any of it were to be reused. It was hardly in good condition as-is, even with the charge.
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Post by turbokinetic on Oct 31, 2018 14:56:32 GMT
Paul, I had a nearly full system of so2. The unit would have to be completely rebuilt if any of it were to be reused. It was hardly in good condition as-is, even with the charge. Paul, this refrigerator was left outdoors by the previous owner. The unit was sinking into the dirt; motor full of mud etc. The cabinet was also in very poor shape. We were able to salvage parts from it to use for the restoration of Travis's impeccable 1927-1929 model. The cabinet was too badly damaged to feasibly restore. There are enough of these still for sale in cosmetically good condition, to spend the time and effort on this one. The compressor, evaporator, motor etc. will eventually help restore another unit. Travis is going to place caps on the fittings to prevent a constant supply of moisture from getting in the system. It'll be OK without purging.
I might bring the parts back to Alabama when returning Travis's and Lou's fridges. Then I can evac and purge them for storage. In the meantime they should be safe with caps on them.
I understand your feelings. It was very hard for me to take off that first part, effectively ending its hopes for being restored as a unit. But, we had to make the decision.
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Post by csulaguy on Nov 1, 2018 1:23:27 GMT
I understand your feelings. It was very hard for me to take off that first part, effectively ending its hopes for being restored as a unit. But, we had to make the decision. I wasn't bent out of shape over it in any way; rather, I was just surprised, given Travis' thoughts on saving these things. On the note of salvaging parts, pretty soon you can add 2 more MT's to your collection - those 2 seized CA tops that are just taking up space. Where they are, only generator power is available to power them up, so it's not exactly quiet enough to listen to what's going on inside, but it doesn't sound like a CA is supposed to sound. But I'll save the rest for a PM or another thread.
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Post by Travis on Nov 1, 2018 2:00:37 GMT
Paul,
I often make my deals quickly. Quite often, I find once I have picked up said item, that there are parts missing or worse yet, significant cosmetic damage. If something is in rough shape, I often part it out. I've seen enough old refrigerators by now to know what's rare and what isn't. What I try not to do it part out something that is good and generally complete.
David is a bit more sentimental than I am. I respect that, but I would prefer to search for a better cosmetic example and utilize my parts stash to create the best of two if needed. Everything is able to be restored, I just choose cleaner examples. I trust that in the future, David will use this 2 dr unit to restore a nicer cabinet that has had its unit torn out. That seems to happen to belt drives fairly often.
I'm sorry to have taken this thread off topic.
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Post by turbokinetic on Nov 1, 2018 4:26:15 GMT
...... David will use this 2 dr unit to restore a nicer cabinet that has had its unit torn out. That seems to happen to belt drives fairly often...
For sale: Vintage cast iron steampunk tire inflator compressor! Works but smells awful! Has very small tank and big motor!
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Post by Travis on Nov 1, 2018 4:34:00 GMT
I've seen old compressors mounted on tanks in that manner. I wonder what came of your original unit, nothing good surely.
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Post by turbokinetic on Nov 1, 2018 4:54:01 GMT
I've seen old compressors mounted on tanks in that manner. I wonder what came of your original unit, nothing good surely. Yeah, I think I know....
The seller was a former wife of an antiques dealer. The story makes me think it was removed and sold separately from the fridge. The condensing unit is something that somebody would impulse-buy at an antiques mall or flea market. (Steampunk Motor, Cast Iron Pump, It's Awesome!!!!) It is small enough to carry off in a car, so it is more readily saleable than a complete fridge.
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Post by ckfan on Nov 15, 2018 15:46:20 GMT
I decided to turn on the D2 again today since I have time. Boy am I glad I did. I’m nowhere near calling it fixed but it is doing MUCH better! Very quiet, no rattling either. There was one loud POP from the float as soon as I started it. Much louder than normal. Kinda sounded like a CK that’s been sitting for a while. Then it hunkered down and started working. Usually after 5 minutes or so the watts drop down to 120 something and it starts rattling. This time after the pop the watts went up to 200 and then started falling slowly. The whole evaporator is nice and frosty and is making healthy boiling noises which I have not heard before. The watts have been holding steady at 140 for 10 minutes now. The machine sounds very content and quiet. I think that this is a case, like many, where the float is just stuck and it needs exercise to get it going. Calculated, careful exercise. Not like just letting it rattle to death. I think this along with a few of my other machines are very good candidates for a 124 conversion and a shot of Supco 88. I’m guessing that if I actually tried to start using this one that it would do what my DR1 and flat top do and eventually shoot craps and stop working until you let it warm up.
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Post by Travis on Nov 15, 2018 17:26:13 GMT
That's great to hear. Let it run awhile.
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